
Despite being a non-heterosexual woman-centred celibate woman, I apparently still get to go “He’s quite tasty!” when the moment arises. I tend to react that way (oh dear, how predictable) to rugby players, men in uniform or black tie, and a few Professional Ugly Blokes like Gerard Depardieu and Gordon Ramsey. I’m such a useless stereotype, it’s actually embarrassing.
The above is by way of being an introduction to a post about something else, because I had one of those kinds of conversations with someone the other day and it set me musing about this and that.
It should already be clear that my rating a man as tasty does not mean that I would like to have any sort of relationship, or even casual sex, with him… No way!!
For one thing, I learned from trial and error (oh, college days) that the best looking ones are always the most selfish, in bed and out, but especially in. No - you always go for the slightly nerdy-looking bloke with a twinkle in his eye - not the one who never pulls, but the one who just happens to have interests in life other than getting off with girls. Honestly. It’s not just the “he’s so grateful you even looked at him” nonsense, it’s also the fact that because he is neither drop dead gorgeous nor obsessed with sex, he hasn’t been trained since puberty to expect that women (girls) will throw themselves at him, hasn’t learned contempt for us, hasn’t learned to view us as entirely replaceable and to take our availability for granted. So he treats women - or is more likely to treat us, at least if he isn’t a porn monster (which, if you pick right, he isn’t) - like human beings deserving of, you know, consideration.
In any case, the moment some bloke - especially Some Famous Bloke - opens his mouth is usually the moment I lose interest, so I tend to admire from a distance, or with the sound turned off… I guess that’s why firemen and rugby players are good to choose, they don’t talk much while they’re on the job.
Yes it’s all very dysfunctional and somewhat laddish. I blame the patriarchy, or something. But all that is by-the-by. (This is clearly doomed to be a meandering post where I get distracted at every turn, and I must keep hauling myself back on track. The trouble with trying to write a post on sexxiness, or even a post that isn’t actually supposed to be about sexxiness at all, is that you end up going down all sorts of by-ways and unplanned diversions. OK, I’ll stop looking at Jason Robinson’s torso now.)
The nutshell I got to on Tasty Blokes was, more or less, that just because men may sometimes be quite sexy doesn’t mean I want anything to do with them… It’s not that all men are stinky and mean - clearly, that isn’t true, although if the cap does fit… Ahem. Nor is my decision to steer clear of men, however tasty, a political one rooted in some ideal of a far-off feminist utopia, although of course my chosen way of life is definitely rooted in the feminism that gave me the eyes to see it and the courage to live it.
As I was saying, it’s not that men are all horrible creatures from the deep, or that they are politically unacceptable to me. No. What puts me off the idea of having a (sexual) relationship with a man is the way they just take over your life.
Seriously. One day you’re an independent woman doing your own thing and enjoying every minute, the next you’re worrying about whether you have time to cook the lovely meal you have in mind cos you need to have a bath and get yourself ready for Stud Man. A month later you start taking an interest in his darts league; after a year you’re wondering why you never have time to see your friends any more; five years down the line and you’re a haggard wreck because you can’t cope with the fallout from his depressive mood swings or his mid-life crisis.
Screw all that.
Of course, it may not turn out quite like that every time. But what is true of all relationships - all the ones I’ve had, anyway - is that there is never peace. There is never time to just be; you are no longer a person but only part of a unit; suddenly somebody else’s problems all become your problems too.
It is what I think about when I see ants - when you disturb a nest they all run about madly, grabbing eggs and making a run for it, busy, busy, busy. But why should an ant, a worker who will only live for a few days anyway, waste its precious time saving somebody else’s eggs? Because the ant is not an individual; the ant is part of a collective, a mindless collective, an ant unit. Is that what I want to be?
I’ve been reading Possession and although it is seriously stagnant for most of the plot, there are moments that speak to me. There is talk of a clean, white bed. Another of the main characters writes of solitude as freedom, she uses intense privacy and voluntary isolation as her means to achieve freedom and independence - but when she allows a man to penetrate her solitude, when she allows herself to be blown off course by romantic love, it all comes crashing down.
Screw all that.
Just give me a bed of my own.
It needn’t be white, or even especially clean.
Just a bed, a space, a sanctuary, a time and place to be - something that is all my own.
29 May 2008 at 8:08 pm
tee hee
30 May 2008 at 5:46 pm
I don’t know, I think it is possible to have a realtaionship that doest become unhealthily symbiotic and co dependant.
My partner and I spend loads o time apart and have seperate rooms because we need our own space. anwile e suort each other we don feel respnsible for each other. While I know this is unusal because we do live in a society that tels ours our partners have to be everything to us it can be done.
I also think its posible to be woman centered while being in a het relationship
Also I’m really interesed in why you are celibate and what efect that has on your sexuality, I’d really like to talk to you about that, email me if you want to keep it more private.
30 May 2008 at 7:22 pm
Hi P - I’m not really saying that it isn’t possible to have a healthy relationship and/or to be a woman-centred person in a het relationship… I think I’m just saying that I’ve never had that experience and that I don’t think it’s possible *for me* or at least *not now*.
I mean if that magical One Person came into my life, the One Person who might enrich more than s/he depletes, fair enough, I’m not ruling it out - my celibacy is a way of life, not a lifelong vow. But, well, I’m not holding my breath, because I’ve got better things to do! I’ve been single for long enough to know I like it, like the space and boundaries it allows me to create and maintain, like the freedom I have as a result. I’ve learned that, contrary to every social conditioning message you ever hear, being in a monogamous sexual relationship was always far more stressful, for me, in my personal experience, than not being in one. I’ve posted about this a few times - what it all comes down to is that I just like being single, and celibacy is a better fit for me right now than any other way of life.
As for the effect on my sexuality - well I’m not sure I’m up for Twenty Questions on that, but celibacy isn’t the same as asexuality. Not to put too fine a point on it, single people have orgasms too… and healthier ones too, in my case, with more freedom, more control, and the opportunity to disentangle oneself from those old, damaging patterns of sexuality that we are taught to see as normal and natural. So I like that part about being single too
7 June 2008 at 11:08 am
Funny you call Gerard Depardieu a ‘pro ugly bloke’ - I agreed until I saw a photo of him when he was young. He was actually quite a looker back in the day! Yikes - is this the fate that awaits us all?!
7 June 2008 at 11:23 am
I’ve just read the rest of your blog and so will leave a less superficial post. It sounds as though most (or all) of your experience of relationships has left you feeling drained. If that is the case I really feel for you, and I can understand why you would write the way you have.
But that’s not the way things should be. Whoever we choose to pair up with should be someone who energises us, leaves us feeling buoyant and excited about life, whose goal is to allow us the freedom to be the best that we can be. Of course problems come along with that, but then life can never be problem-free (with or without a partner). Besides, like a butterfly emerging from a chrysalis, we grow the most when we allow life’s problems to teach us life’s most valuable lessons. In case this sounds like a nice idea in theory, you should know that I am writing this as someone who (a) has been in such a relationship with my husband for nearly 10 years; (b) has gone through the most painful, traumatic and overwhelmingly stressful time in my life. Despite the traumas I’ve recently experienced, and my initial unwillingless to learn, I have now emerged with an astonishing level of resilience and empathy which I never had before.
So what am I saying to you?
Firstly, if your reasons for celibacy are primarily avoiding pain, then you are short-changing yourself. You may find it beneficial to work with a counsellor who can help you to work out what went wrong in your past relationships and whether you have pattern of choosing people who will hurt you.
Secondly, if you shrink back to protect yourself from those hurts, you are again short-changing yourself. Sometimes, when feelings are raw, it can be important to put your arms up in self-defence for the purposes of self-preservation. But after some time has passed and the feelings of hurt have softened, it’s essential to put your arms down and open yourself up to learning from the experience. Without doing this you cannot grow fully, and you will also find that you build up a collection of emotional wounds.
I sincerely hope that no matter what life throws at you, you are able to make the best decisions for your life, which allow you to flourish and become the best that you can possibly be.
9 June 2008 at 6:18 pm
Well, Peddy, thanks for the nice thoughts.
You’re a good way off base in your analysis of my life and all - but, well, thanks anyway, cos you certainly do seem like a nice person.
17 June 2008 at 6:02 pm
Nice post Maia. I liked what you said here:
“Not to put too fine a point on it, single people have orgasms too… and healthier ones too, in my case, with more freedom, more control, and the opportunity to disentangle oneself from those old, damaging patterns of sexuality that we are taught to see as normal and natural.”
I really agree that having solo orgasms can go a long way towards helping us get rid of all that toxic conditioning about power and stuff.
And yeah, men do take over your life. I am seeing that in a lot of my female friends lately. They are getting married and having babies, and it’s like they are just gone. Their men still have time for THEIR lives, because my friends are doing all the work. My friends seem to be drowning in the expectations of what a woman/wife/mother should be. It’s horrifically painful for me to watch.
I live with my boyfriend, so I do think about this stuff a good deal. It’s not easy to be in a relationship with a man, even a good man. Even a really dorky, sweet man